51:23Maaz sahib, yeh agla sawal aaya hai Shahab Haider ka Delhi se . In the series of learning from you, and of course I am learning, I want to know the difference between ideal Islam and spiritual Islam. Ideal Islam ka jo term aap ne istemal kiya hai toh main samajhta hoon ke yeh toh kahin Quran o Hadees mein aaya nahi hai. Yeh term toh koi aaya nahi Quran o Hadees mein. Ideal Islam. Jahan tak main jaanta hoon.
51:59Kya ideal hai, woh Allah ko pata hai. Hum khud nahi jaan sakte ke yeh hai ideal. Hum toh bas koshish kar sakte hain. Albatta jis cheez ko main spirituality kehta hoon, woh ek woh wahi cheez hai jis ke liye yaani Quran mein Rabania aaya hai. KUN RABBAANIYYAN Rabania hi ke maani mein bolta hoon main spirituality ko. Aur woh Rabania kya hai? REB-ORIENTED THINKING Rab ko apna concentrated banana.
52:41Jab ek aadmi aisa kare ke woh Rab ko discover kare aur woh apni source ko Rab ki taraf divert kare aur cheezon mein Rab ki jhalakiyan dekhe, woh is tarah ki zindagi guzare toh isi ka naam hai Rabani zindagi. Doosre ko kaha gaya hai KUN RABBAANIYYAN Rabani bano. Toh Qurani lafz agar aap pasand karte hain toh woh hai Rabani. Aur agar koi aur lafz aap bolna chahein toh woh hai spirituality. Yaani Rabani insaan hi ko sense mein bolta hoon main. Spiritual insaan. Baqi jo aap ne farmaya ideal Islam toh mere ilm ke mutabiq ideal Islam ka term jo hai Quran o Hadees mein istemal nahi hua hai.
53:32Next question is from Raj Malik unhon ne apni location define nahi ki hai. Maulana sahib, aap se guzarish hai ke Kashmir mein aap ka kutabcha "Qayamat ka Alarm" zyada se zyada distribute kiya jaye taake log yeh samajh sakein ke Qayamat Kubra is se badi aur azeem hai. Theek hai, inshallah aap ka yeh session acha hai aur hamare saathi'on ne kiya bhi hai, un ko phailaya hai wahan par. Abhi thoda sa crisis khatam ho toh hum un se kahenge ke bhai yeh kitaab ko aur phailaiye, aur phailaiye, inshallah. Maaz sahib, agla question aaya hai Maulana Iqbal Umri ka Chennai se. Maulana, ideal achievement hamara goal nahi hai kya? Is mein profits ka bhi exception hai aur woh bhi achieve nahi kar sake?
54:36Dekhein, yeh ek question clear nahi hai. Ideal achievement ka lafz sahi nahi hai. Agar yeh is ka matlab agar yeh le rahe hain ke ideal ko achieve karna toh ideal ko achieve karne ke silsile mein ke yaani justice ka nizam qaim karna, human rights ke voice ko khatam kar dena, aur bohat hi mayari hukoomat qaim karna yeh goal profit ka hota hi nahin. yeh to leaderon ne goal bana rakha hai. yeh to non-achievable hai. kyunke dekhiye, maine bar bar yeh baat kahi hai ke dunya mein Allah ne insaan ko azadi hai.
55:26azadi bilkul absolute hai. khud Khuda bhi is ki azadi ko aap ka waris nahin karta. aap dekhen ke Khuda ke khilaf beshumar kitaben likhi gayi hain. God delusion, God is dead pata nahin kaisi yeh kitaben hain. to kya Khuda ne in ka hath paon tod dala? woh phir bhi dandan rahe hain? woh to yeh bohat bari baat hai. jaanna chahiye ke Allah taala ne insaan ko qayamat tak ke liye total freedom diya hai. woh kuch bhi kahe, us ko azadi rahe gi.
56:10pakad jo hogi, woh qayamat mein hogi. to jab aisa hai to paighambar ideal system kaise banaye ga? kaise banaye ga? bataiye. Ideal system ke liye zaroori hai ke in insanon ko zer kiya jaye jin ko freedom mila hua hai. to kya sab ko qatl kar le ga? to qatl kar le ga to system kahan banega? isi liye dekhiye, insaan ne Hazrat Yahya paighambar the, un ko qatl kar diya. insaan ne Hazrat Umar itne oonche darje ke khaleefa the, un ko qatl kar diya. yeh sab hota hi hota hai. to due to human freedom it is not possible to establish ideal system in this world to kaise paighambar kare ga?
57:05to paighambar dekhiye, apne aap ko ideal bana sakta hai. apne aap ko. aur banaya. har paighambar ne apne aap ko ideal banaya. isi liye to kaha ke سُومُّ كَمَرَ رَأْتُمُنِي أُسَلِّ mujhe dekho, jaisa main karta hoon, waisa karo. to har paighambar ne apni zaat ko ideal banaya. lekin yeh yeh sirf possible hi nahin hai ke system ko ideal banaya jaye. is zamane mein kuch uthe, yani Arab mein bhi, non-Arab mein bhi, aise jinhon ne ideal system ko goal banaya.
57:41lekin kya ideal system bana paye woh? sirf unhon ne sirf yeh kiya ke ek naya larai ka ek maidan khol diya. log lar rahe hain ideal system ke liye. lar rahe hain, bahar ja rahe hain. halanke ideal system ban nahin sakta. aur kitaben likhi gayi hain jo mislan Madina mein jo state qaim thi, aisi kitaben likh rakhi hain jaise ke wahan bagh o bahar tha. koi bagh o bahar nahin tha wahan pe. bagh o bahar ho nahin sakta hai. to sare andaaz mein kitaben likh rakhi hain logon ne. to us ko le kar log samajhte hain ke wahan bagh o bahar tha.
58:20na bagh o bahar tha aur na bagh o bahar ban sakta hai. isi liye maine jo study ki hai to maine jaana hai ke individual level par ek aadmi apne aap ko ideal bana sakta hai. lekin system ko ideal bana de woh, yeh impossible hai. na paighambar ke zamane mein hua, na ab ho sakta hai. dekhiye, yeh bohat bari baat hai. isi liye hum ne dekhiye, hum ne apne CPS ka jo mission hai, us mein hamara ek goal dawat hai.
58:53hamara goal system ko qaim karna nahin hai. hum ne jo goal ikhtiyar kiya hai, woh hai ke Allah ke message ko logon tak pahunchana. Allah ke message ko logon tak pahunchana. yeh dawat, tablegh. yani pahunchana hamara target hai. pahunchana. System bana dalna, yeh hamara target nahin hai. System banane ka jo target jinhon ne liya hai, jin logon ne. bohat si jamaaten hain, aap jante hain. India se le kar Arab tak. System banane ke naam par kya hai? maar kaat, maar kaat, maar kaat. koi system to bana nahin. aur maar kaat khoob khoob hui.
59:40is wajah se hum ne samjha hai quran o hadith ke mutalliq se ke system ke maamle mein woh jo samajh jisko sanction kare, bas. jitna samajh accept kar raha hai, jitna samajh ke liye acceptable hai, woh itna aap samajh mein qaim kijiye. albata apni zaat ke maamle mein aap khud ko ideal baniye. is mein koi rukawat nahin hai. aap jaise chahein baat kijiye, jaise chahiye sochiye, jis tarah se chahein apne ko ideal banaiye. to hamara manna yeh hai ke islam ko hum yahi samajhte hain ke in terms of individual idealism, in terms of practical pragmatism
1:00:35yeh is ko hum samajhte hain ke yahi islam hai. to society mein koi yeh goal banaye ke hum ko social justice qaim karna hai ideal sense mein, to aisi cheez hai jis se fasaad barpa hoga. kyun ke social justice ke naam par aap ladenge kisi se, kisi ko hukumat ko khatam karne ke liye koshish karenge, ab hukumat bhi waar karegi aap ke upar, to aap se hukumat ladai yahan hogi. jaisa ke aap jante hain, muslim mulkon mein ho raha hai yeh. muslim mulkon mein roz aap jante hain ke wahan par wahan ke muslim awam aur hukumat aapas mein lad rahe hain. kyun ke leaderon ne yeh kar rakha hai ke humein humein nizam mein haq, nizam adl qaim kar rakha hai.
1:01:15yeh bilkul bilkul hi yani ghair islami baat hai yeh. samaji satah par woh hoga jis ko samajh sanction kar raha ho, itna hi is se zyada nahin. apni zaat ke liye albata aap jo kar sakte hain, kijiye. aur goal jo hai, goal dawat hai Allah hai. peaceful yani peaceful dawah work mein koi rukawat nahin. is mein koi takrao nahin. koi maar kaat nahin.
1:01:49to hamara nishana jo hai, peaceful dawah work hai, hamara nishana justice ka nizam qaim karna nahin hai. isi liye. aur yahi yahi jo hai islam ka taqaza hai. maulana, yeh agla question aaya hai doctor farida khanam ka Delhi se. There are some people who say that Kashmir has witnessed divine wrath because of their involvement in militancy, and they are not interested in Dawa work. dekhiye, do baatein ek doosre se alag alag hain.
1:02:32ek yeh ke kashmiriyon ne jo nizam mustafa ka naarah lagaya aur jo wahan par islam ke upar tehreekein chalayin, is ko galat kehna. to main is ko galat kehta hoon. main kehta hoon kashmiriyon ko chahiye ke woh dawat ka kaam karein. aur nizam mustafa bilkul hi main is ko bilkul hi galat samajhta hoon. yani yeh leaderon ka naarah hai, yeh rasool Allah salallahu alaihi wasallam ka naarah nahin hai. to yeh ek cheez hai. doosri cheez ke wrath hona, dabluyoo araa tee ech, ke jo kuch hua woh Allah ka ghazab tha. to yeh kisi insan ko haq nahin hai ke yeh kahe.
1:03:12Allah ka wrath agar tha to woh Allah ko maloom hai. hum ko, aap ko nahin maloom hai. to main yeh kabhi bhi nahin kahunga ke Kashmir mein ya aur kahin jo waqiyat hote hain, woh Allah ka wrath hai. yeh main nahin kahunga. lekin main yeh zaroor kahunga ke musalman jahan bhi hain, jo siyasi hukumatain, siyasat tehreekein chala rahe hain, woh bilkul ghair islami hai. iska islam se koi talluq nahin hai. chahe falasteen ho, chahe Kashmir ho, ya Pakistan ho, ya Iraq ho, jahan jahan islam ke naam par political tehreekein chal rahi hain, woh sab mere radd galat hain.
1:03:53unhein dawat ka kaam karna chahiye. dawat hai Allah ka kaam. to ek kaam, ek to ek cheez hai un ke un ke kaam ke baray mein ek hukum lagana. to is ka mujhe right hai. woh mein karta hoon. lekin yeh kehna hai ke woh wrath tha, yeh yeh is ka mujhe right nahi hai. is liye mein yeh lafz kabhi bolta nahi. maulana, yeh agla question aaya hai doctor pradhan ka Delhi se
1:04:25. Maulana, if we had thought somebody less than us, then how should we seek forgiveness from him? dekhiye, is maamlay mein hadith se do tareeqa maloom hota hai. ke agar hum ne koi aisa kaam kiya kisi ke sath jo Allah ke nazdeek ghalat tha, to ek tareeqa yeh hai ke aap us ko ja kar talafi karen, mil kar ke us se. doosra tareeqa yeh hai ke agar yeh mumkin nahi hai to us ke liye dua karen. yani us ko talafi karna, compensate karna, agar mumkin ho us se mil kar ke to talafi karna chahiye. aur nahi to us ke liye dua ke khudaaya mujh se yeh ghalati hui to us ke liye meri taraf se
1:05:22koi bara inaam likh de. to to ya to talafi ya dua. yeh do cheezein hadith se maloom hoti hain. halaat ke aitbaar se dono mein se koi bhi cheez ikhtiyar ki ja sakti hai. maulana, yeh agla experience sharing hai ans ka Delhi se. maulana, mere ek friend kuch atheist ki baaton mein aa kar behak gaye aur us ko laga ke mera mazhab Islam nahi, Islam kahin dhoka to nahi hai.
1:06:04maulana, phir us ne God Arises padhi dobara se, bilkul neutral ho kar, aise jaise woh Muslim nahi hai. phir us ko Islam rediscover hua. maulana, kya yeh us ke liye marifat thi? khuli hui marifat thi. isi ka to marifat hai. marifat isi ka naam discovery ka naam marifat hai. yani jis cheez ko hum traditional term mein kehte hain marifat, isi ka scientific term hai discovery.
1:06:40donon bilkul ek hi cheez hain. aap secular term use karen to discovery kahiye aur religious term use karen to us ko aap marifat kahiye. donon ek hi baat hai. agla question aaya hai farhad umri sahib ka Delhi se. ek news thi ke Indian military ke tireless effort par Kashmir ke floods mein unhon ne kaam kiya. yeh news mein ne apne ek Muslim dost ko dikhai to unhon ne yeh comment kiya: "duty ki hai, koi koi ehsaan nahi kiya hai." Maulana, is pe comment karen.
1:07:23mein to samajhta hoon ke jinhon ne aisa bola, woh gunah kiya. unhon ne unhon ne duty ki hai to bolne walay ne gunah kiya. dekhiye, har haal mein humein acknowledge karna hai kisi ki khidmat ko. hata ke aap ka ek yani mera tareeqa hai ke jo hamara jo driver hai, jis ko hum paisa diya jata hai, woh bhi mujhe kahin pohanchata hai to mein us ko shukriya karta hoon. dekhiye, acknowledge karna hai ya kya karna hai, ek ibadat hai yeh. us ko is tarah mein nahi lena hai ke woh duty kiya unhon ne. aise log na Islam ko jante, na un ke andar sharafat hai, na insaniyat hai. jo log aisa kahein ke unhon ne apni duty kiya to mere qad mein un ke andar animal animal thinking hai. animal thinking
1:08:19hai. animal thinking hai. yeh bohat hi sasti qism ke log hain yeh. warna koi shakhs kuch bhi kare to aap ko acknowledge karna chahiye. aap ka mulazim ho tab bhi kehna chahiye ke shukriya. yani woh to hamare mulazim nahi hain aur woh itna kaam kar rahe hain. kehte hain bechare military ko bhi maare gaye isi mein. yani kai army ko bhi is mein inko jaan dena para. is tarah se kaam kar rahe hain woh. mein to bohat zyada inko samajhta hoon ke bohat hi qabil qadar kaam kar rahe hain woh. jis ne yeh kaha to mere nazdeek gunah ki baat kahi unhon ne.
1:09:02aur usooli baat mein yeh kehna chahta hoon ke jab aap acknowledge karte hain, shukriya ada karte hain to aap ibadat karte hain apne liye. aur dekhiye, ek bohat hi zyada relevant hadith hai ke malam yashkurun nas lam yashkurullaha jo aadmi insaan ka shukr nahi karega, woh Allah ka shukr bhi nahi kar ega. shukr ka matlab hota hai acknowledge karna, eteraaf karna. to yani aap ko to aisa mauqa jo hai opportunity ke taur par lena chahiye, jahan aap keh saken ke mein aap ka eteraaf karta hoon, mein aap ka acknowledge karta hoon, aap ka shukr guzar hoon.
1:09:52aise koi mauqa pesh aaye to us ko bator opportunity ke lijiye, ibadat ke opportunity, maarfat ke opportunity. jinhon ne yeh baat kahi, woh bilkul yani mein samajhta hoon ke insensitive ho gaye. insensitive sensitivity un ka andar nahi hogi aur na woh Quran o hadith ko samajhte honge. aise hi bas animal ki tarah jeete honge, animal ki tarah un ka tareeqa hoga.
1:10:24maulana, yeh next question aaya hai rajat malhotra ka Paris se. How can we explain to people that materialism should be need-based only? dekhiye, need ka koi yani in terms of quantity aap us ko us ko define nahi kar sakte ke itne rupay, itna ghar, itna bistar, itna kapda yeh nahi ho sakta. yeh aap ke apne upar hai ke aap ko khud introspection kar ke jaan na hoga ke meri need kya hai. need kisi ki kam ho sakti hai, kisi ki zyada ho sakti hai.
1:11:08to yeh koi mushkil kaam nahi hai ke aap agar aadmi ke andar sincerity ho to jaan sakta ho ke meri need kya hai. doosri baat yeh hai ke dekhiye, yeh bohat hi khush yani Allah ke shukr ki baat hai ke ek Mr. rajat malhotra is waqt Paris mein hain. ab Paris se yahan unhon ne sawal bheja hai aur yahan hamari baat ko woh Paris mein sun rahe hain.