1:22:30yeh Maulana, agla sawal lete hain jo Pakistan se hai, aur unhon ne likha hai aap ka literature taqreeban saara read kar chuka hoon, aap secularism ko ain Islam qarar dete hain, mazhab ko infiradi matter tak mehdood samajhte hain, jabke ijtimai matters ke liye aap insani aql o shaoor par aitmad karne ka hukum dete hain.
1:22:57aap ki yeh ta'beer deen kya sari Muslim countries ke liye hai ya sirf India aur deegar countries ke liye, jahan musalman aqalliyat mein hain? is ko wazeh karen. dekhiye, kuch log jo extremism ka shikar hain, ghulu ka, wo secularism ko ek ek muqaddas nazariya mante hain, is liye wo taraqqi karte hain.
1:23:24wo jis tarah mazhab ek aqida hai, samajhte hain ke secularism bhi ek aqida hai, yeh bilkul, yani it is wrong, completely wrong. koi bhi aqida nahi samajhta is ko, secularism method hai, method, wo aqida nahi hai. there is difference between method and aqida.
1:23:46rasool Allah ne jab lafz rasool ko mita diya tha, to is ko aap aqida banayein to lage ke yeh bohat galat kaam hua. kaba but rakhe hue the, is ko aqida banayein to aap kahenge to bohat galat kaam hua. to cheezon ko, har cheez ko aqida banana, isi ko to main kehta hoon ke cheezon ko logical
1:24:05end tak le jana. secularism ek method hai. logon ne dekha ke is zamane mein khas taur par jab ke, yani log yahan wahan jate hain, bohat zyada samaj mein phaila hua hai, to har har mulk mein, har har society mein, tarah tarah
1:24:24ke religion, tarah tarah ke culture wale jama ho gaye hain. to how to establish harmony among these people? to is ke liye secularism ka formula ijad hua. to secularism ka matlab, secularism ek ek method hai, wo aqida nahi hai kabhi bhi, aur method ke taur par best hai.
1:24:48wo main samajhta hoon, kyunke aap kya karen, jab ek society mein differences hain to aap ladenge, ladenge to khoon kharaba hoga. is se acha yeh hai ke har ek ko, yani har ek ko mauqa dijiye, aur main samajhta hoon ke yeh yeh khud rasool Allah ne ikhtiyar farmaya tha.
1:25:07madine mein jab aaye aap to us waqt madina ek ek multi-religious society tha, yani muslim the aur yahudi the, roughly half half the. to aap ne ek ek charter jaari kiya, jis ka tha, jis mein likha gaya tha ke lill yahood deen wa al muslimeen deen,
1:25:27musalman ke liye musalman ka deen, yahoodi ke liye yahoodi ka deen. yahi to hai, yahi spirit hai secularism ki, yahi spirit hai secularism ki ke ittifaq wale daire mein hum sab mil ke kaam karein, aur baqi jo daire hai, yaani jis mein ittifaq nahi, to wahan tum apna karo, tum apna karo.
1:25:49misalan economic development, city planning, industry, ye sab aise idare hain jo sab ke faide ke liye hain. to wahan sab log ek mil kar ke wo mutahid ho jayein, ye secular daire yahi hai.
1:26:08aur doosra daire hai ke aap ki abad ka tareeqa kya ho, aap ka mazhabi aqeedah kya ho, ye is ye mazhabi daire hai. to secularism ek ek settlement ka naam hai, aqeedah ka naam nahi hai. mein samajhta hoon ke best settlement ye hai, khud rasool Allah ne ye settlement kiya tha madine mein,
1:26:30lill yahood deen wa al muslimeen deen, un ke liye un ka deen, un ke liye un ka deen. is ka matlab kya? yahood ka deen bhi hote hi sachha tha, musalman ka deen sachha tha, ye matlab nikalenge aap,
1:26:44ye matlab nahi hai is ka. to secularism ek settlement hai, social settlement ya political settlement, bas is se to aur kuch nahi hai, wo aqeedah nahi hai. maulana, Pakistan se sister Salma ne aap se sawal kiya hai aur poocha hai ke what is the