1:14:57maulana, agla sawal tamil nadu se hai maulana iqbal umri sahab ka. unhone likha hai: "ghair maadi zindagi ki baat karte hain toh sufi ya sadhu ya sadhu kaha jata hai. maulana, aisa kyun?" nahi toh hum ghair maadi ka woh matlab hamara nahi hai. woh toh janglon mein chale jana aur insano se door chale jana ke maene mein lete hain.
1:15:21hum woh maene mein nahi lete. hum toh yeh kehte hain ke maadi cheezon ko baghz zaroorat lena, baghz raish nahi. dekhiye, angrezi mein teen lafz bola jata hai: "need, comfort, luxury". "need, comfort, luxury".
1:15:45main samajhta hoon ke "need" ke darje mein liya jaye, yeh sahi tareeqa hai. woh sufi log jo bolte hain, woh toh woh toh bilkul apne ko kaatna aur riyazat, yani rohani riyazaton ke naam par woh alag ho kar ke ek zindagi guzarna, woh ek alag hi cheez hai. woh hum jo baat bolte hain, woh yeh hai ke "need" ke darje mein ikhtiyar karo.
1:16:09maadi cheezein na comfort ke darje mein, na luxury ke darje mein. yeh kyunke agar aap is ko "need" se aage badhenge toh phir aap ka time nahi rahe ga sochne ka, time nahi rahe ga, yani apne intellectual faculty ko develop karne ka. masla yeh hai, woh haram nahi hai.
1:16:33yani comfort aur luxury haram nahi hai, lekin woh aap ke time ko kill karta hai, aap ki energy ko kill karta hai, aap ke money ko kill karta hai. is se is sense mein woh bohat hi, yani halakat khaiz hai. mein yeh nahi kehta ke ke comfort aur luxury haram hai, nahi.
1:16:57mein yeh kehta hoon ke jo aadmi comfort aur luxury ko apna, yani nishana banaye ga, to woh is qeemat par hoga ke jo doosra jo bara kaam hai, intellectual development aur spiritual development, woh nahi kar paye ga. kyun ke is ka sara time isi mein nikal jaye ga, is ka paisa isi mein kharch hoga, is
1:17:21ki is ki energy isi mein kharch hogi, is ki tawajjuh isi mein kharch hogi. is sense mein mein kehta hoon, yani haram halal ke sense mein nahi kehta. Maulana, agla sawal hai Umarabad se Maulana Fard Ahmed sahib ka.