Maulana Wahiduddin Khan

Place of Ancestors in Islam

“What is the place of ancestors in Islam? What is the meaning of this question? Maulana wants to know about the status of forefathers in Islam.”Asked by نصیر الدین, حیدرآباد

He answers at 56:07 in The Right Path · 21 min 14 sec

His answer, in his own words
56:07
maulana, yeh agla sawal aya hai naseeruddin sahib ka hyderabad se. مولانا، my question is: What is the place of ancestors in Islam? kya is ke sawal ka matlab kya hai? Maulana janna chahte hain ke abao ajdad ki islam mein kya jagah hai? abao ajdad ki islam mein kya jagah hai? jaisa aaj kal log bohat zyada apne
56:32
abao ajdad ko har jagah quote karte hain. bhai, maine is sawal ka matlab maine samajh. koi misaal dein, woh misaal dein to samajh aayega. agle agle hafte koi misaal de kar ke batayein, woh
56:50
Maulana, yeh agla question aaya hai Maulana Iqbal Umri sahib ka Chennai se. Maulana, kufr ko is zameen mein maghloob rehna hai aur Islam ko ghalib. Maulana, is mein jo mughalta hai, usay wazeh karein. yeh kahan, kaun si ayat hai? kaun si hadith hai ke kufr ko maghloob rehna hai, Islam ko
57:13
ghalib rehna hai? yeh kahan hai? jo is silsile mein jo ayatein padhi jaati hain, us mein peghambar ke mission ki baat hai. yani peghambar, peghambar ka mission zaroor ghalib hoga. peghambar ka mission kabhi maghloob nahi ho sakta hai.
57:34
lekin yeh hum nahi keh sakte ke kufr ko ghulba nahi milega aur musalman ko ghulba milega. yeh toh kahin Quran majeed mein hai nahi. sirf jo baat peghambar ke mission ke aitbar se hai, us ko musalmanon ne apni tehrikon ke liye
57:49
chaspah kar rakha hai. Maulana, agla question aaya hai Mr Imran ka Bahrain se. مولانا صاحب، there is a verse in Quran that after every hardship there is ease. After after every hardship there is ease,
58:04
But why hardships of prophets never ended? dekhiye, hardship kya cheez hai? woh challenge hai. challenge is liye aata hai ke aap us ko response dein. toh challenge response mechanism hi se taraqqi hoti hai.
58:26
woh hardship ne kahi hai, woh challenge kahi hai us ko. aur challenge ka matlab ye hai ke is se aap ke aap ko aap ko mind activated activated hota hai. aap ke yeh salahiyaten jagti hain.
58:40
agar dunya mein challenges na hon to koi taraqqi na ho. baghair challenge ke kabhi koi taraqqi nahi ho sakti. to is ko is ko negative sense mein mat lijiye, is ko positive sense mein lijiye.
58:59
maulana, yeh agla question hai miss ditti malhotra ka delhi se. مولانا، you have many times mentioned on the importance of keeping patience, But when we tell this to people, they say that patience till when what is your advice on this?
59:22
yani sabr kab tak? dekhiye, quran mein hai ke quran mein hai ke jannat sabr walon ke liye hai.
59:38
jo sabr karega, us ke liye jannat hai. yeh quran ki ek ayat hai. to jannat to eternal maqam hai, abadi jagah hai. to kya aap
1:00:00
saari umar sabr karenge? tabhi to eternal jannat milegi. waqti agar aap sabr karenge to jannat bhi thodi si milegi aap ko, ek din ke liye ya ek mahine ke liye. main samajhta hoon ke jannat ka eternal tasawwur jo hai, woh apne aap mein yeh batata hai ke
1:00:20
sabr zindagi bhar karte rehna hai, karte rehna hai, karte rehna hai. quran mein. ma sabr jannat hum ne di un ko is liye ke unhon ne zindagi bhar sabr kiya tha. to saari umar sabr karne se aap ko yani eternal paradise milti hai.
1:00:41
agar aap yeh kahein ke bhai saari umar nahi karna hai, mujhe to ek mahina karna hai, ek saal karna hai, to phir yeh bhi maan lijiye ke aap ko ek saal ke liye jannat mile. is ke baad jannat se jannat se nikal diya jayega.
1:00:55
میں سمجھتا ہوں جو لوگ یہ کہتے ہیں کہ صبر کب تک، وہ اس کے consequences سوچتے نہیں، chunki jannat un ke liye hai jo sabr karen. is liye jannat ka jis ne sabr karta hi rehna hai. دیکھیں، صبر کا مطلب کیا ہے؟ صبر کا مطلب یہ ہے کہ positive behavior پر قائم رہنا، ری
1:01:22
act na karna. to isi se to sari sifaten paida hoti hain. اگر آپ react کریں تو آپ کے اندر اعلیٰ کوالٹی کا development نہیں ہوگا۔ lekin jab aap sabr karenge, tabhi woh process aapke andar jaari hoga jismein aala quality
1:01:43
paida hoti hai. to sabr ko log samajhte hain ke koi negative baat hai. sabr to negative baat nahin hai, sabr to ek positive baat hai. sabr na ho to aadmi ke andar aala akhlaq paida na ho, oonchi soch paida na ho.
1:01:58
bilkul zindagi jo hai, oonchi baaton se khali ho jaye. maulana, yeh ek comment hai muhammad aamir siddiqui sahab ka noida se. he is quoted an example from quran:
1:02:16
"It was not Moses who wanted to take away political power from Pharaoh. It was Pharaoh who said to Musa that he wants to unseat him and his clan. Musa was only there for peaceful da'wah as approved by Allah. theek baat hai, sahi kaha aap ne. maulana sahab, yeh agla question aaya hai mehtab sahab ka dhampur se.
1:02:49
maulana sahab, khuda ke yahan namaz kaise qabool ho? meharbani kar ke batayen. dekhen, qabool hone ka mamla woh Allah ka mamla hai. peshgi taur par yeh nahin maloom hota ke meri namaz qabool ho gayi. yeh soch galat hai.
1:03:09
kisi kisi sahabi ne yeh nahin kaha hai ke meri namaz to qabool ho jati hai. yeh yeh yeh lafz kabhi sahabi ne nahin bola. to kisi sahabi ko pata nahin tha ke meri namazen qabool ho rahi hain. aap koshish karna hai,
1:03:26
al-saimen wala ehtimam min Allah ke mujhe koshish karna hai aur baqi kaam Allah ka hai. to hamein koshish karna hai ke hamari namaz sahi namaz ho, is ke andar spirit ho, is ke andar khushu ho aur taqwa ho. is ki koshish karte rehna hai.
1:03:44
baqi yeh Allah ka domain hai ke woh ke woh is ko kya darja de ga. to Allah ke domain mein kabhi bhi dakhil nahi hona chahiye. molana, yeh agla question molana farhad ahmad sahib ka hai dehli se.
1:04:02
مولانا، how should I keep myself away from extremism in the religion? bas sochna chahiye ke rasool Allah ne farmaya ke "ayyakum walghulu fid deen". hadith mein aata hai ke "man kaan bilghulu fid deen".
1:04:24
yani hadith mein bataya gaya hai ke ghulu mani extremism ke hadith mein bataya gaya hai ke jo pichli qaumein tabah huin, woh ghulu ki wajah se tabah huin, halak ho gaein. is tarah ki jo hadith hain aur Quran mein bhi yeh baat aayi hai, is ko jab taam
1:04:43
yaad karenge, hota hi hum is se bachenge. aur doosri baat yeh ke hamein tajziya karna seekhna chahiye. tajziya ek baat ho sakta hai ke ghulu ho aur hum is ko ghulu na samajhte hon. to jab tajziya karenge aur introspection karenge, tab hamein maloom hoga ke yeh to yeh to
1:05:03
ghulu ka kaam hum kar rahe hain. to ek taraf hadithon se sabak lena aur doosri taraf musalsal taur par sochte rehna, tajziya karte rehna, yahi tareeqa hai jis se aap aadmi bach sakta hai ghulu se ya extremism se. molana, yeh agla question hai aamir jaan sahib ka kashmir se.
1:05:30
مولانا صاحب، throughout my life, I always believed that being Muslim it is fard for me to read Quran and get reward from Allah. But after listening to your lectures and reading your literature, I came to know that Quran is not supposed to be read, rather it is to be studied to get to know the creation plan of God and the art of living in this world. I tried to study the Quran from page one and have completed five chapters,
1:06:11
but I am not able to comprehend it properly. iz same things have been repeated many times. i want to know the best way by which we can study quran. dekhiye, is mein koi misaal nahi hai, koi example nahi hai ke konsi baat aisi hai jo
1:06:33
clear nahi hui aap ko, halanke aap ne tadabbur ke sath parha. tab bhi to mein samajhta hoon ke aap agle sunday koi misaal de kar bataein to mein is ke bare mein kuch kar sakta hoon. maulana, yeh agla question jo aaya hai, is mein naam aur location mention nahi hai.
1:06:51
muslim world has become jabal yafta. My question is: How you US and Europe could save themselves from being jabbal yafta? bhai, jab tak naam nahi hoga, mein bolunga agle sunday ko naam ke sath aur maqam ke sath bhejein to bataunga.
1:07:17
maulana, yeh agla question mr ajay ka hai gurgaon se. مولانا, as per one hadith, Prophet said we should stop wrongdoing by any means possible. How can we understand it in current situation? Bhai, misaal ke baghair yeh hai, yeh question bhi bahut misaal ke baghair. Kis cheez ko samajh rahe hain woh? Maulana, woh yeh likh rahe hain ke Prophet ki ek hadees, unhon ne hadees quote nahi ki hai lekin us ka meaning quote kiya hai ke we should stop wrongdoing by any means possible. Humein galat kaam ko har tareeqe se rokna chahiye. So he wants to know that how should we understand this thing in current situation?
1:08:06
nahi bhai, is hadith ko inhon ne sahi tareeqe se naqal nahi kiya hai. woh hadith is tarah nahi hai ke bas hum kaise bhi is ko rokein. Nahi, is mein yeh hai: according to our capacity, agar rokne ka mumkin hai to rokein, bolna mumkin hai to bolein, nahi bol sakte to dil se maanein.
1:08:27
iska matlab yeh hai ke aisa aisi koshish jo counter productive ho, yani aur bigaad mein izafa ho jaye, log lad jayein to chup rehna chahiye, dua karna chahiye. اس اس جو naqal kiya unho ne, is se lagta hai ke har haal mein hamein khud padhna chahiye.
1:08:48
to yeh hadith nahi hai. hadith yeh hai ke agar tumhare bas mein hai ke tum koi bigaad paida kiye baghair is ko durust kar do to durust karo, aur agar yeh bas mein tumhare nahi hai to zuban se bolo, aur zuban bolne mein bhi khatra ho ke bigaad paida hoga to
1:09:09
phir dil dil se bura samjho aur dua karo. تو دیکھیے، اسلام میں جتنے بھی احکام ہیں، سب according to your capacity ہیں۔ capacity ke baghair koodna yeh islam mein nahi hai.
1:09:23
jaise muslim mulkon mein log har jagah kooday hue hain. keh hum yahan justice qaim karein ge, hum yahan qanoon nafiz karein ge, aur practical tor par kya hota hai keh khud hi larte marte hain, kuch hota nahi, sirf larai barhai hoti hai. to yeh Islam ki taleem nahi hai.
1:09:43
aap ko apni capacity ke aitbar se karna hai, is se bahar nahi hai. Maulana, woh jo question jis mein naam aur location mention nahi thi, unhon ne wapas reply kiya, woh Mr Idrees ka hai Raipur se. Muslim world has become jabal yafta.
1:09:59
My question is: how US and Europe could save themself from being jabal yafta? zawal, zawal, degeneration. to degeneration to sab
1:10:16
jaise misaal ke tor par dekhiye, ek zamana tha jab keh Europe mein freedom ek bohat achi cheez thi, ek positive phenomena ke tor par. Abhi aaj ki khabar hai keh Europe ke country mein ek baqayda referendum hua to 62 percent unhon ne is par rai di keh
1:10:41
same sex mein merger marriage hona chahiye. yeh freedom ko misuse karna hai. ek zamana tha keh Europe mein tasawwur nahi tha keh freedom ko misuse kiya jaye. to Europe, America mein aaj zawal ho chuka hai, yani zawal shuru ho chuka hai.
1:11:03
zawal shuru ho chuka hai. aisa nahi keh un ka zawal nahi hota. ek zamana tha keh jab woh urooj par thay, woh log urooj par. ab to har jagah zawal hai.
1:11:13
Europe mein bhi, America mein bhi. Maulana, yeh agla question Dr Pradhan ka hai Delhi se. If somebody is facing discrimination in worldly affairs, How should he stay positive in such situation
1:11:28
؟ دیکھیے، میرا ماننا یہ ہے کہ discrimination is nothing۔ ایک فطری، یعنی ایک نیچرل فینامینا ہے جس کو کہتے ہیں discrimination۔ kyunke jab zindagi ka nizaam bana hai compression par, to koi aage badhega, koi peeche hatega, koi aage badhega, koi peeche ho jayega.
1:11:52
تو پیچھے والے کا کیا؟ پیچھے ڈسکریمینیشن ہو رہا ہے؟ نہیں، وہ that is due to comprehension، due to challenge. to apni ghalti ko jaanna chahiye. jab bhi koi aisa waqea ho to apni ghalti ko daryaft kijiye.
1:12:08
وہ discrimination کا قصہ نہیں ہوتا ہے۔ میری زندگی میں بہت سے واقعات ایسے ہوئے ہیں، مگر میں ان کو discrimination نہیں سمجھا۔ maine apni kisi kotahi ko maine daryaft kiya. maine to phir main phir dobara main kaamyaab ho gaya.
1:12:25
تو میری ڈکشنری میں، ڈکشنری میری ڈکشنری میں discrimination کا لفظ ہے ہی نہیں، اور سارے قرآن میں kahin bhi yeh lafz nahi hai. discrimination ke lafz quran majeed mein nahi hai. yeh to us zamane mein logon ne garh rakha hai ghalat taur par,
1:12:41
aur kyuki wo sahi sahi analysis nahi kar pate waqiyat ka, to kehte hain ke discrimination ho raha hai. main isko nahi manta. آپ اگر specific مثال دیں تو میں اس کو تجزیہ کر کے بتاؤں گا کہ یہ discrimination نہیں ہے۔ یہ کوئی بھی کسی بھی فیلڈ کی آپ اسپیسیفک مثال دیجیے کہ وہاں مسلمانوں کے ساتھ discrimination
1:13:04
hua, to main bataunga inshallah. کیونکہ میں مانتا ہی نہیں کہ discrimination ہوتا ہے۔ aap mein apni اپنی، یعنی ان competitor ہوتا ہے، اس کی پرائس بھگتنی پڑتی ہے، اور وہ کہتا ہے کہ discrimination
1:13:21
ho raha hai. تو میں نہیں مانتا discrimination کی تھیوری کو۔ main manta hoon ke aadmi apni hi kami ko bhugatta hai.
1:13:33
jaise quran majeed mein hai ke to jab tak koi misaal na de, koi aadmi, main isko manne ko tayyar nahi hoon. maulana, yeh comment aaya hai miss aaliya farooqi ka pakistan se. Maulana Sahib, from your every lecture,
1:13:55
I take energy, positive thinking and sabr. bas ji, mashallah, bohat acha. phir se padhiye isko, phir se padhiye. مولانا صاحب, from your every lecture, I take energy, positive thinking, and patience.
1:14:17
mashallah. maulana, yeh agla question aaya hai doctor farida khanam ka dehli se. Why is it that everyone remains patient at home And everyone remains patient at workplace? But when it comes to be, when it comes to be patient to Madhu for the cause of
1:14:44
god, he is not willing to do so. dekhiye, main samajhta hoon ke jahan compression ho, wahan theek ho jata hai. jahan compreshan na ho, wahan woh theek nahi rehta.
1:14:59
jaise office hai, to ek shakhs ghar mein to ladega, office mein theek rahega, kyunke office mein compreshan hai. office mein ladega to us ko farigh kar diya jayega. to bahar nikalte nikla hai to apna apni achhi image banane ke liye woh bohat theek thaak rahe
1:15:19
ga. To main samajhta hoon ke yeh sari baatein is liye hoti hain ke jahan compreshan hai, wahan to theek thaak rehte hain log. jahan compreshan nahi hai, wahan woh yaani theek thaak nahi reh paate. to sahi insan woh hai jo
1:15:39
jo apne yaani jis ko jo intellectually developed ho, uska shaoor tarqqi yafta ho ke har jagah woh ek sa rahe. compreshan ho ya na ho, har jagah woh theek thaak rahe. isi ko main samajhta hoon ke aala insan.
1:15:58
maulana, yeh agla question bhi doctor farida khanoom ka hai dehli se. From my interaction with Muslims, I have learned that Muslims are totally unaware of logical thinking. They can't think in any point logically and rationally. why is it so?
1:16:22
Dekhein, is ka mujhe bhi tajruba hai ke Musalman logical thinking ya scientific analysis jaante nahi. Is ki wajah yeh hai ke modern education mein dakhil nahi hue Musalman sahi tor par. Hatta ke unhon ne jo college university banayi, wahan bhi sahi ma'ni mein modern education nahi aayi. Kyun ke kyun ke bahut zyada favor tha, bahut zyada favor. Jahan favor rahega, wahan scientific education nahi ho sakti hai. Jo jo main jaanta hoon, Musalman idare, wahan competition nahi hai, wahan par favor, favor, favor. To modern education is ma'ni mein, is ma'ni mein ke western countries mein hui, us ma'ni mein Musalmanon mein kabhi aayi nahi, na aaj bhi nahi hai. To is wajah se scientific thinking un ko un ki qadar nahi hai. We will end this session now.
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